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Apparently Ex-Ag Michael Bryant has gone missing in Caledonia.
Too bad he didn`t fall off the earth a few years ago.
http://caledoniawakeupcall.wordpress.com/2008/04/13/missing-%e2%80%93-michael-j-bryant/

We have the date for the Challenge(Appeal) to Bill 132 a.k.a "Pit Bull" Ban.

Our appeal will be heard on Mon Sept 15 and Tues Sept 16 beginning at 10:30 a.m. at the Court of Appeal for Ontario, Osgoode Hall, 130 Queen St. West in Toronto. Room to be determined the Friday before.

Now,more than ever Ontario needs your help with donations.
This case is funded solely by donations.
If you favor Democracy and would like to help straighten out Premier Dalton McHypocrite and "Puppy Killer" Bryant who introduced this BS Legislation,please donate by cheque,money order or paypal
http://www.bannedaid.com/index.html

Rambo and Gabriela are counting on you.
Rambo really will be able to lift his leg on Dalton McGuinty and the rest of the Ontario Fiberals and those who support BSL.

It`s back up.
I guess the Premier can`t make up his mind.
Leave it.
Take it off.
What does it matter now?
It`s on a blog entry.
Might as well leave it and hope for the best.
For future reference this is where the petition is at this moment but that could change.
http://www.ontla.on.ca/web/house-proceedings/hansard_search.jsp?locale=en&go=AdvancedSearch

Well that didn`t take them long,less than 2 hrs.
The petition signed by the entire McGuinty clan including the family pit bull terrier named Tory has been removed from Hansard!
If you want something done quickly by the Ontario Liberal Government,just embarrass them.
I wonder if the Premier intends to send me the picture of his pit bull terrier.

http://www.ontla.on.ca/web/house-proceedings/hansard_search.jsp?searchString=%22McGuinty+family+pit+bull+terrier%22&go=Search&locale=en

I have requested a photo of the McGuinty Family "Pit Bull" from the Premier.
I`m sure there is one laying around somewhere.
If it is sent,there will be a free vote held to determine the pretend fate of this dog.
Not "substantially similar"-It goes home to play with the McGuinty kids.
"Substantially similar"-It goes to Research or is slaughtered.
I`d like to invite Dulio,the cleaner and all the staff at M.A.S to vote.
This vote doesn`t really matter.
http://jmac53.bravejournal.com/entry/27625

All we need now is the picture from the Premier.
If you can`t find one Dalton,could you get a police sketch artist to draw something "substantially similar" or NOT?

Came across this.
It just seems to be apropos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfrQalpmdqk

If you`re opposed to Breed Specific Legislation and politicians trampling all over your civil rights in this world,please add yourself or your City to this map.
http://www.frappr.com/mydogvotes/map
You don`t have to own one of those "special" dogs or even a "normal" dog.
Make sure they get this message loud and clear:

"Keep it up and you`ll be looking for a new job next time around!"

Note to Dulio,staff and full time cleaner.

I ran your voting scheme past a couple of lawyers that I know and they suggested (off the record) that if you insist on voting on certain dogs, that you might want to change your voting choices to
1)"pit bull terrier"
2)Other
and then you put the dog up for adoption(no matter its age) if it passes all other criteria for adoption.

They say that the birthdate
is irrelevant since "pit bull terrier" was severed in this ruling.
http://www.canlii.org/en/on/onsc/doc/2007/2007canlii29973/2007canlii29973.html

They also say that "substantially similar" is a legal term to be decided in a court of law by a Judge if the Gov`t(not you) makes that accusation against a dog.
They are wondering why ANY animal care worker or By Law officer would even use the term "substantially similar" or "pit bull" when describing a dog.

They both suggested that you and others involved in enforcing this asinine law(They both used that term)read the Remedy ruling over and over and over again until you REALLY understand the implications of "pit bull terrier" being severed.

I`m just summarizing an off the record conservation with each of them.
I can`t afford to pay them.
I`m donating all my spare cash to try and defeat this law.
If I may be so bold Dulio,I think what they`re saying is use your head.

Of course that`s just the opinion of 2 lawyers.
Just something to think about Dulio.
Makes sense to me.
I have the feeling this is what was meant by.. It just got a whole lot more expensive for them.
Don`t do the Government`s dirty work.
It`s one thing to kill one of the 3 banned Pure Breeds if one is ever found,it`s quite another to be killing "pit bull terriers" of any age which are no longer covered by this legislation.
Let the courts determine "substantially similar" to the 3 banned Pure Breeds.
Maybe more Ontario citizens will speak out.
If they don`t care about the slaughter,they may care about the millions of dollars that will have to be spent prosecuting owners of "pit bull terriers" that may
or may not be found to be "substantially similar".

Well, well....I thought I had heard it all.

Disgusting, laughable, but mostly sad.

FIRST OF ALL YOUR LAW SUCKS!!!, you are quick to kill animals that resemble the breed "pittbul" regardless the nature or the personality of the dog. so all pittbulls are doomed to death. this law is insane , inhumane and damn right cruel. yet weas society will allow pedofiles back into society where little children play in parks and schools nearby!! hmmmmmmmmm where are our priorities????? cocker spaniels have been known for rage syndrome and bites on children yet are they banned? german sheppard bites exceed far past pittbulls but again are they banned? no the mississauga and ontario government needs to get there head out of the ground and govern better laws and decisions. jeez if you put this much enforcement on gun control than pittbulls maybe we would have no shootings!!! i hate the law love the breed and think this law needs to go let us have our pets . let rambo go home to his family . your keeping him locked up than possibly euthanizing him what a life the puppy lives, all for what beign a stray?? did he harm anyone ? aww hell no. let him go

Bob Runciman made a joke.
http://ottsun.canoe.ca/News/National/2008/03/27/5114831-sun.html

I guess if you have to be politically correct ALL the time,it was inappropriate.

Well guess who is demanding an apology for stereotyping people...

[quote] "He should apologize to aboriginal leaders as well. It`s as simple as that."

Bryant said the remark played upon outdated stereotypes and likened it to pro sports teams' logos such as the Cleveland Indians, Atlanta Braves and Washington Redskins, which have come under increasing criticism over the past few years. [/quote]

Would that be similar to stereotyping ALL "Pit Bull" owners as Dog fighters,Drug Dealers and other assorted criminals?

Could someone with Press Credentials ask Michael Bryant when he`s going to apologize to some Ontario Dog Owners?

Huckleberry, the chocolate lab that was stolen in Rosedale while his dog walker had a latte, was lucky he didn't end up in the Mississauga pound. He looked substantially similar to Rambo, IMO.

How does the pound "decide" which animals get euthanized overall? Draw straws?

[quote]More campaigning on Carolyn Parrish's part. Dramatic and empty.[/quote]

What does that mean?
She`s not running for anything.
She`s taking a lot of heat for speaking up.
And she knows a lot more about Bill 132 now, than she did prior to Rambo being picked up.
At least she`s doing SOMETHING to help both Rambo and to assist in having this entire Bill struck down.
If you want to dump on someone,dump on these 3 useless twits.(Put that comment in my file,fellas)

Michael Bryant
Chris Bentley
and Dalton McGuinty.

They are solely responsible for this dog facing death and for more than 2000 other dogs that have already been slaughtered.
They are also responsible for turning ordinary Ontario citizens into criminals.
Carolyn Parrish is trying to get visitation rights for this dog and other dogs in custody while these cases work their way through the legal system.
I hope this Province is flooded with Mutt ("Pit Bull") cases.
She is also trying to get this one Municipality to use the option which allows "criminals" to be sent out of Province when they`re picked up and Dulio votes "Pit Bull".
I hope owners don`t take that option before fighting in court.
What are you doing?
You might start with reading and attempting to understand Bill 132.
If you had, you would understand that Dulio`s "Pit Bull" vote has caused a lot of problems for this dog and owner.

Frankly I`m getting sick and tired of people who don`t seem to have a clue about this Bill.
Start by reading it.
http://www.doglegislationcouncilcanada.org/dolaON.html

Then maybe I won`t see any more postings in Facebook groups asking
"What`s Bill 132?"
and
"Why don`t they just let him go?"

You`ll defeat this Bill and get Rambo released with knowledge and cash donations to
www.bannedaid.com
not by dumping on people
that have changed their mind about this Bill and are actually trying to do something.
If Dulio and the "well meaning" staff at Mississauga Animal Services would read Bill 132,they would know that there is NOTHING in there that requires them to vote "Pit Bull".
Keep up the good work Carolyn.
Custody dogs having visitors is a good start because there will be a lot of them if I can convince people to keep their dogs here and fight for them.
We will beat the aforementioned Twits.
I will be getting another Mutt (Ontario "Pit Bull") someday and I`ll want to visit it if they`re foolish enough to attempt to seize it.
I`ll make sure the Mutt is born after Nov 27,2005 just like Rambo.
I leash,license and p & scoop.
I don`t muzzle and I sure as hell don`t pick my Mutts by their birthdate.
Twits don`t scare me,not even the Chief Twit!
I think you may understand now why "Mac`s Gang" can`t and won`t lighten up.

Is Rambo still in custody?
No one seems to want to make a decision on the fate of this dog. That alone says to me yet again "let Rambo go back to his owner" and stop this carry on which to this date has accomplished nothing to get this dog back to its owner. What happened to common sense and doing the right thing? Has anyone got an answer to that?.

More campaigning on Carolyn Parrish's part. Dramatic and empty.

Perhaps a more scientific approach is warranted: say, reading tea leaves, flipping a coin or spelling out the breed name using a ouija board.

None of these is any more ridiculous than the current "methodology". It would be laughable if it weren't such a tragedy for the dogs and the people who love them.

Petitioning the Assembly

By now, our Mississauga MPPs should have at least been "morally" and "legally obligated" to file and read 8 year old Jazmine Humble’s petition thru Rowena Davis Administrative Assistant to Lisa Freedman, Clerk of Journals , Legislative Assembly of Ontario, 99 Wellesley St. W., Room 1640, Whitney Block….Toronto, ON M7A 1A2 …Ph 416 325-3529… Fax 416 325-3505

Seems they've thrown the baby out with the bath water on the Youth agenda because I’ve never seen a communications breakdown this big with any size government?

I heard about this last night and was perturbed, to say the least.

I can't say shocked because nothing about this situation shocks me anymore.

These people are unqualified to determine whether or not a dog is physically substantially similar to one of the three rare purebreds named by the Fiberals in the law.

There is nothing about 'jaws' or anything else that will offer any help there, contrary to the nonsense they were taught at the AMO course and contrary to their ridiculous checklists.

The fact is that just by being a dog, any dog is 'substantially similar' in physical characteristics to any other dog. Duh. The law offers no clarification or guidance. Duh again.

It's unconscionable that this is taking place across Ontario while I write this. Unqualified, untrained individuals are making fatal decisions based on specious reasoning and a complete misunderstanding of the subject at hand.

Also, even if a dog is determined to be a 'pit bull' (although there's no such thing in reality), it does not preclude putting him or her up for adoption. That depends on the dog's age, not his shape - another odious provision in this evil legislation.

Of course, if the dog is even more unfortunate, and doesn't have an owner who cares enough about him to get him properly rehomed (hey, things happen and a lot of owners just can't handle the persecution in Ontario these days), then he's just a John Doe Dog and who give's a damn anyway?

Who gives a damn is anybody with a sense of decency, fairness and an obligation to stand up for those who can't stand up for themselves.

Oh, and I really wish all these 'we're only following orders' types would stop misusing the term euthanasia - that's not what it means.

Experts. Right.

So, they are convinced that Rambo is a 'pit bull', are they?

That's interesting because it hasn't been proven yet (probably because it's impossible to prove, but now I'm quibbling) so I'd suggest they wait for the court to make that decision.

You know, following protocol and all that.

G-r-r-r-r.

Voting to kill a dog solely on the basis of its shape, how very Liberal.

How can these people vote on something that doesn't exist?

Nothing in the law REQUIRES that a dog be labelled a "pit bull". This must stop immediately.

This practice is disgusting. If a dog has a good temperament, it should be available for adoption. A dog's shape has no bearing on its character.

I am just sick for all the good puppies and dogs that died because they were politically incorrect.

And yes, an owner should be allowed to visit his or her dog. A dog understand abandonment and gets frightened when it is suddenly no longer with the people it knew, in the home it knew. Visits from an owner can reassure the dog. Failing to allow owner visits shows the lack of understanding of dog psychology and behaviour on the part of animal control personnel.

Dog owners in this province have fewer rights than pedophiles or gun-toting thugs. Thanks, Mikey and Dalton, for making us into second-class citizens and killing good dogs just for political ambition.

Just out of curiosity is this a "whipped" vote?

[quote]Animal control staff are only trying to do their jobs, I realize, under trying circumstances, applying a law they didn't agree with in the first place. This procedure may well have been suggested as a way to take collective responsibility for a difficult decision in a grey area.[/quote]

If it isn`t "whipped", then why don`t the "wonderful" staff who are just trying to do their jobs give these mutts the benefit of the doubt?

Hey there, John,

So Parrish is finally catching of glimpse of one of the stupifying beyond-comprehension policies crapped out by the evil empire?

You wrote:

'An incredulous Parris says, "a dog's fate is decided by who walks through the room during the days that they are voting and whether they vote yes or no. The caretaker can be the deciding vote. And our manager only gets to vote to break a tie."
Never mind the details of the vote procedure."

Tell Parrish that I'll bet her twenty bucks that somewhere in that evil-empire policy are the words "appropriately" and "take appropriate action".

And tell Parrish that when she's done marvelling at the stupidity of the Pooch Policy she can take a peek at the latest "Code of Conduct/Complaints Procedure" just crapped out by The Corporation and pro-forma'd by the Audit Committee and then proforma'd by her and her colleagues, Dozy, Snoozy, Droopy, Sleepy et al.

They passed that Corporate Security complaints policy without even seeing the actual complaints form.

How do I know?

I asked for one before Council on Wednesday. Handed over to me by noon and I recognized it as a ripoff of the Provincial complaints policy.

It never made the Audit Committee agenda. That's how Mississauga craps out what it does, John.

And yes, there I am in the stands

INCREDULOUS

Ah, let's go back to the well again. This part:

"The caretaker can be the deciding vote."

The dogs have it easy.

When a human being is potentially "put down" by a ban, the Manager of Corporate Security can have the deciding vote AND no Councillor is present. (confirmed through FOI.)

EVIL. Evil, John.

[quote]In Rambo's case, staff had no doubt that he appears to be, and is a pit bull. "Rambo is what he is," says Rose.[/quote]

This is so insane,I can hardly breathe after reading it.
They are VOTING on whether a dog lives or dies!!!
I say we get to vote on whether they keep their jobs!

And on another note:
Rambo can`t be a "pit bull" because there is no such thing as a "pit bull".
Dulio et al. please start reading the Ontario Blogs.
You and your staff are sounding as crazy and uninformed as the Ontario Fiberals on this matter!
And that`s some crazy!

Firstly, I find it appalling that we are KILLING animals based ONLY on APPEARANCE. Sadly, there could be thousands of dogs out there that could be deemed "SS" and that does NOT mean they are! Since when have we, as a society, EVER used this kind of legalized discrimination in our history? It seems that now we are also legally profiling (for now) dogs. Bill 132 is a totally insane piece of legislation as written. It was a whipped vote that was rushed through lesgislation and against the advise of over 80% of the professinals ALLOWED to testify at the debates. The sooner it is changed the better. When I asked what statistics the Attorney General's office had on which to base this law I was told they didn't have any. Bill 132 was based on two incidents and the one that started it was later shown to be a Bull Mastiff X and NOT be a Pit Bull at all.

It is common knowledge that most people (including the AG's Office and the Media) often mistake these dogs for as much as 26 other breeds on a regular basis. The one fatal dog attack in 2006 was intially reported to be a Pit Bull. It turned out to be a Jack Russell and Collie Mix. These dogs have taken alot of blame they don't rightfully deserve.

So many Mistaken Identies and now so many dead dogs. Family dogs are being torn from loving family homes because of the media creating sensationalism to sell papers or get quick 20 second TV bites. The real disgrace is how Joe Public just bought into it.